Training/working out at 64

I am amused by this song: I am 64. And no, being 64 is not the end of the world. But I am in uncharted territory (living what I’ve never lived before). And yes, the old-timer remind me: “it gets worse.”

Today’s walk was instructive:

Yes, it warmed up to 86 F, 57 percent humidity (error in the meme)

Now the walk did NOT start off well. I was 16 minutes at the turn off of Moss (just over 1 mile) and I was feeling some left glute/hip tightness at Dozer (just over 2 miles. I gave some thought to just turning around and going home; instead I stretched and continued. I was glad that I did.

Oh, there is some glute soreness and yes, it is lumbar related. It happens. And I WAS fatigued, just a bit. How I could tell: the tightness..my getting irrationally irritated by cars and bicycles (none of which were bad, AT ALL..and yes, I kept my irritation to myself since it was MY problem, not theirs).

But here is where experience came in: instead of angrily pressing the pace, I just relaxed, tried to focus on pelvic tilt and angle (I have stenosis due to spondylolisthesis) and focused on the mechanics of walking. And the pace picked up a bit. I walked to the driveway of the old marina and turned around; going out I stayed on the sidewalk of Water Street until the Gateway building (to avoid the Farmer’s Market foot traffic) and on the way back, I walked along the seawall, and made some other adjustments. The return trip took 1:03 and that was net uphill and done in hotter temperatures; the down trip took 1:06.

So, while I was not pleased with my lack of speed, it was not much of an effort, and I did have tough walks on last Saturday (Steamboat 4 in 43:44 plus 4 more miles), Tuesday (15K at 14:44) and Thursday (“fast 4 on the track”). I have to pay attention to cumulative stress.

And this leads to the topic of this post: working out while older. I’ll list some things just off of the top of my head:

  1. Chronic conditions. I have to be careful here. On one hand, NO ONE my age is not going to have aches and pains. My past areas: knees, shoulder, lumbar. They WILL act up from time to time. Pain that is highly localized and does NOT go away with warm is way I pay attention to. I rarely take pain pills; I haven’t since my bout with COVID in the winter of 2023. I also have to modify exercises, delete others. Part of the reason I film a few sets is to see if I am aggravating some condition of mine.
  2. Body responses Yes, my walking times ARE slower and the weight I can lift is lighter. There is nothing I can do about that. But I can pay attention to things like “I don’t do well in heat so I should back off of my normal pace” or “this stretch/exercise works well for this condition” and I can make it a point to do extra physical therapy for specific things. I do have some concerns about my balance (balance forward) and so I’ll have to practice yoga tree poses and the like. I have to take just a bit more time between sets in lifting, OR do fewer sets if time is tight.
  3. Load management I have less capacity for volume. So; I have to make choices. It seems that I can handle two strenuous walks per week (distance with some intensity and higher speeds), and perhaps two medium walks (slightly longer at a slow pace or shorter at a faster pace), and two heavy (by my standards) press workouts per week. The off days have to be easier.
  4. Testing my limits Deadlift: probably a bad idea as when one tries for a max, the form breaks down a bit. I cannot afford that. Bench: every once in a while is ok, but I have to watch the shoulders. Pull ups: my pull ups have a slight kip to them but trying too many leads to form breakdowns which leads to radiating pain. Walking: take it easy on the races; do them once in a while with a bit of faster walking once a week. Distance: build up gradually. I feel it if I build up too quickly.
  5. Overall life stress This is a tough one. There was a time when I went the hardest when things like work stress were the greatest. That doesn’t work anymore. I have to leave something in the tank for my job. I’ll have to one of my tough walks on the weekend, and limit my tougher sessions to the weekend, juggling them around football games in the fall (I am NOT giving those up).
  6. Keeping perspective. I sometimes get encouraging comments on my Youtube videos…that would be appropriate were I a 24 year old just starting out. But I am not that; I am on a downward trajectory and I am working to retard the slide as best I can; to slow the rate of my decline. Decline I will. Local races: well, I have to remember that 2 years ago, I was doing 1-2 mile walks. That I can do them at all is something to be grateful for. But the reality I will be finishing with the elderly, the injured and the overweight. The days of finishing with the “hard bodies” is long gone. I still remember 1985-1986. I was at my strongest; I worked up to a 300-310 bench press. I weight about 230 lb (45 more than I weigh now) and decided to do a local 5K (on the campus of St. Edwards University). I routinely ran 2-4 miles per day. My time: 23:15, or a 7:30 pace. My trying to run that pace now would be a complete joke. Yes, my waist was 4-6 inches wider than it is now. I have to remember that when I get discouraged by not being able to stay up with someone who does not look in good shape.

Working out near 65 years of age

I turn 65 in 3 month’s time. I’ve been working out regularly since 1972 (started with running and weights) and things have changed for me over time.

I was never good at sports: here is a smattering of my lifetime bests: high school: started one year of varsity and two years of JV football; was a back up for 1 year of varsity (my senior year!) though I played enough to letter. Went 12-3 in wrestling and won a 3’rd place medal in my league tournament (1974).

Weights (gym numbers) bench press PB is 310 lb (141 kg) in 1986-87..last saw 300 lb in 1993, deadlift (probably not powerlifting legal) 410 1979, clean and jerk: 195 (just over bodyweight at the time) and snatch 110 (that bad, really).

Running: 5:30 mile (1980, 5:31 in 1982) last sub 6 was 1999, 5K 18:57 (dubious course), 19:20 (certified course), last sub 20 was in 1998. Last sub 25 was in 2014. 10K 39:50 (1982), 42:20 as a Master, 1/2 marathon 1:34 in 1999 (2001 was my last sub 1:40), marathon 3:33 (1980), 3:38 (2000), 3:40 (2001) last sub 4 was 2002 (3:57); ran a 4:04 later that year.

Ultra: 101 miles 24 hour walk in 2004.

Swim: 5K open water in 1:36 in 2008; swam 1:34 in a pool (5500 yards in 2009). 15:36 is my 1000 yd PB, last sub 16 was in 2008.

Judged walks: 1500 in 8:31 (2003), 3000 in 18:03 (2004), 5k in 30:42 (2003), 20 k in 2:24 (2003) monitored power walk: 1/ 2 marathon in 2:17 (2003)

As you can see, this isn’t exactly athletic excellence. My wife calls me a “pretend athlete” as my best numbers are woefully short of what a competitive athlete can do.

But what I can do is important to *me*. And I work at it. And, well, as a 64 year old, I can do less than I once could.

Ability/recovery Of course, my capacity has fallen a great deal. To give an idea: pull ups: now sets of 5-10 (10 is getting sloppy) as opposed to 10-20 in years past. Bench press: way down; instead of repping 225, I rep 155. Walking: 14-15 minute miles feel the way that 12-13 used to.

And when I lift, I either have to take a bit off of the weight OR take longer and rest longer between sets. I have no choice. And I have to moderate my work week workouts lest I lose energy I need for my job.

Chronic conditions shoulder: I have Os acromiale (bones did not fuse together all the way) which leaves me vulnerable to rotator cuff impingements. This affects my presses. back: forminal stenosis (due to spondylolisthesis) which leads to modifications of my lifts and pull ups. Knees: meniscus in my right knee is all but gone, so no running. Back in 2020 I was feeling pain at the top of the shin bone when I ran. No space, no padding.

These lead to modifications: bench press: feet on a chair, no leg drive. High incline press and incline press: feet on a stool. Shoulder: high incline instead of shoulder press. Deadlift: heavier stuff done with a trap bar (various heights), though I am finding that lighter weights (220 lb or 100 kg) with a straight bar is fine.

Pull ups: knees forward, leads to a mild “kip”; this saves my lower back.

Running: replaced with brisk walking.

Swimming: laying off of it; my lumbar does NOT like the “extension” I get when I crawl.

Attitude I tend to not do 1 rep maxes nearly as often as I once did..and don’t do them in the deadlift at all. For me: serious strain = breakdown of form = radiating pain from my lumbar. I am reluctant to grind too much on my presses as well; don’t want to aggravate the shoulder.

Races are far less fun too, at least the smaller ones. I used to love to race; I liked the challenge, getting PB and being around the “hard bodies.” Well, at races, I am no longer around the hard bodies. The people around me are mostly a mixture of the “walking wounded” (lots of knee braces), elderly and the overweight. The ambiance is no longer uplifting to me.
And, I have no interest in pushing myself so hard that I make myself sick. 🙂

I am much more conservative than I once was. An injury means a long (or longer than before) layoff and my workouts are good for my mental health.

And that brings me to where I workout: almost exclusively alone, either on the roads or at home. The sense of community I once had no longer feels like it is there, and the days of my getting approving looks or glances are long gone.

Dealing with others The median age is 37-38. So, when people post about their workouts or post a video: well, my numbers are a beginner’s numbers, and people tend to assume that I am at the start of my journey and will eventually get better. In fact, I am working hard to slow down my slide. And yes, it sure feels as if my walking has slowed down…AGAIN. I had a speed up as I recovered from my multi-year long stenosis flare up (getting nerve signals to the legs is NICE) but now..gradually, I appear to be slowing again. I need to be intentional about including 1 “faster” walk every week.

Today’s workout took a long time but I rested between periods: started with 1/3’rd of my PT followed by a 4.15 mile walk in 1:01:10 (4 in 59:06); took about 30 minutes for the first 2 miles. Then pull ups (with more PT mixed in): 10 sets of 5, alternating chins and pulls, with 2 sets being mixed grip. Touched the chin to the top of the bar OR the throat to the bar each rep.

bench press: 5 x 134, 5 x 155 (hard), 5 x 155 (tough), 4 x 155 (ugh), 5 x 154 (good)

incline press: 7 x 120 (wobbly)

high incline: 10 x 84, 10 x 84, 7 x 90

curls: 1 sets of 10.

Post I: workout and baseball

First the baseball game: nothing much to be said; it started out very well (3-0 Bradley) but it went downhill from there.

UIC has a good team: 30-13 overall, 13-7 in a tough Missouri Valley Conference.
BU is 12-32-1 (yes, one tie) and 1-9 at home. The team is trying but, well, circumstances are tough.

My workout: PT, deadlifts, 4.3 mile walk (W. Peoria via Moss plus a 1.2 Campus loop) in 1:02:05. First mile was predictably slow. Weather: glorious. Perfect.

The deadlifts: I was sort of a head case this morning:
low: 10 x 134, 10 x 184, 7 x 225, 7 x 225 (wanted to not bounce my reps)
Wagon wheel (4.25 inch) 5 x 255, 10 x 255
6 inch: 10 x 280

Legs were quivering and that was the goal.

Deadlifts: today went well.

The monster walks: this is part of my daily PT that is boring, time consuming and unrewarding, at least in the short term. There are no PB, PRs to set. But I do them anyway because I sure don’t miss being in pain 1/4 of a mile into walking.

Toward the end of break

I did a bit more catching up. But..well, there is a math conference on campus and I feel compelled to go for at least a bit. What the heck. It is embarrassing given that our math major has been cut.

But I was able to take my time during my morning workout: more PT than usual (and I swear; it appears to be helping) and I did my 4.3 mile course (3.14 W. Peoria plus a 1.16 Moss loop) in 1:02:48 (pace: 14:36); yes, I was sore from yesterday’s hike. The walk came between pull ups and weights as there was a break in the rain.

Pull ups: 5 pull ups, 5 chins, 5 pull ups, 5 chins, 8 pull ups, 4, 7 chin ups, 4, 5 mixed, 5 mixed, then 3.8 “pause” chin ups: pause 1/2 way, pause at the top. Those were humbling. (56 total reps)

Walk: 4.3

Downstairs: low: 10 x 94, 10 x 135, 10 x 190. 8 inch: 10 x 260 (kind of tired)

Bench: 3 sets of 10 x 134
high incline: 2 sets of 10 x 94

It did not seem as if I did THAT much but I did rest between sets.

Oh yes, my new 55 lb (25 kg) bumpers came today. I need to get the light oil off.

My battle with foraminal stenosis and spondylolisthesis

Video version:

I will describe my still ongoing struggle with foraminal stenosis (narrowing of the cavity by which the nerve root exits) and spondylolisthesis (vertebra slipped forward; in my case “grade 1”). It might help someone who is currently suffering with something similar know what to expect, though, of course, each case is a bit different.

Though I’ve had back issues “off and on” for decades, things came to a head in mid to late 2000 (during COVID). I had learned to live with tingling in the bottom of both feet. But then, I developed stabbing glute pain (like being stabbed with an ice pick) which came on during longer walks. It started to come on at 3-4 miles, and over time, at 2 miles, then at 1 mile; then at 1/2 a mile. The technical term is neurogenic claudication .

I felt knots in my glute and thought it was piriformis syndrome. I sought out physical therapy and received it in the summer of 2021. The stretches and strengthening appeared to help. But I still could not walk a complete mile without pain; it was walk, stretch, walk, stretch, etc.

Eventually, I laid off of walking, but by February 2022, the pain came on so suddenly that I could not even walk 1/4 of a mile without stabbing pain. Walking between buildings on campus was painful.

I went to the walk in clinic at Midwest Orthopedic (Peoria, IL) and was assigned to Dr. Lilly.

The diagnosis was “degenerative disk disorder” and I was prescribed lumbar physical therapy.

It helped quite a bit; I was then able to progress to walking up to a mile with moderate to mild pain. But symptoms persisted enough to warrant an MRI:

The worst appeared to be the anterolisthesis (spondylolisthesis where the vertebra is slipped forward) of L5, with some minor problems in L4-L5 and mild stuff at L3-4 and L2-3.

I was referred to a surgeon (Dr. O’Leary) who said I didn’t need surgery yet, but suggested an injection, which I got on June 17. I steadily improved, but was far from perfect when we met again on August 9. At that time, he released me, saying “you’ll know when you need me for surgery” and encouraged me to continue with self PT, activity management, etc.

And it worked, to a point, as you can see. I was able to steadily improve my walking until I made 137 miles in December, 2022.

2023 looked like this: (note: I got COVID in January 2023 and it took a couple of months to recover; In 2024 I got 152 miles in January and 137 in February.

So, things improved a great deal. BUT I am NOT “what I once was.”

Current reality: I am managing a chronic condition. It does flare up on occasion, often due to a mistake on my part (trying something I shouldn’t have tried), illness (COVID flared it up a bit), sitting too much, etc.

But: no pain medicine. I got off of Naproxen (two 22o mg tablets twice a day) in November 2022, got back on it when recovering from COVID, and haven’t had any in about a year.

My life adjustments:

  1. I lost weight. I had gained to 207 lb in the fall of 2021 and steadily lost back to the 185 that I am now. Since I carry much of my fat on my midsection, this helps relieve some of the pressure.
  2. Daily PT. I learned some exercises from my physical therapists and from other sources (listed below) and I go about 20-25 minutes worth every day. There are some exercises I do daily and a few that I rotate in and out. These are designed for MY condition.
  3. Walking modification: right now, I do about 4 intentional exercise/training walks a week; these are usually 5K-10K in range and are done at 13:30-15:00 minutes per mile. On occasion, I’ll powerwalk a 5K (33-35 minutes) or go for 8-10 miles. BUT if I do that, I’ll take an easy few days afterward. Also: I vary courses. I do a hilly course 2-3 times a week (sometimes hiking trails); flat the other days. And on the days that I don’t powerwalk, I do a couple of 1-2 mile commuter walks at 16-17 minutes a mile. About 1/3 of my 30-35 miles a week is this type of easy “street walking”
  4. Walking modification: I sometimes make mistakes or get setbacks. Instead of panicking, just cut back to something comfortable and rebuild.
  5. Walking posture: I found a posture that works for me. I try to tuck the butt and tilt my pelvis forward, and NOT go “Into extension” (arch the back). That is tricky on hills.
  6. Weight lifting modifications: pull ups, I try to avoid extension (arched back) and keep my knees bent and forward a bit. And I’ve learned: try not to raise the chin but instead look over the bar. And I’ll sometimes do single reps, and keep the sets typically 5-7, though I sometimes try for 10.
  7. Weight lifting modification: bench press: I keep my feet on a chair. That decreases my strength by 10-20 lbs. AND I notice if I press my butt into the bench; I get the tell-tale slight nerve pain. I HAVE to take the arch out of it.
  8. Weight lifting modification: high incline press instead of overhead press; try to keep the butt from sliding forward.
  9. Weight lifting modification: trap bar deadlifts; focus on form (body not too far forward), brace by breathing into the belt, and keep the weight to something I can handle 5-10 times. NO MAXING OUT. When done right, my glutes get a good pump and walking afterward is pleasant.
  10. Weight lifting modification: NO DEEP SQUATS, especially with weight. It is better for me to keep a narrow stance, stay shallow and hip dominant and either use a trap bar or something that does not cause compression. I am still working this out.
  11. Swimming: I ended up stopping swimming; I liked to do the crawl and I arch my back (extension) when I do that. I know drills can possibly get me out of that, and I might try again, but for now, no swimming.
  12. Life modification: lumbar cushion for the couch and office chair, and a standing desk attachment for teaching.
  13. Life modification: frequent walk/stretch breaks while doing desk work.

Anyway, that is where I am at the start of year 3 of recovery.

Resources

I’d like to stress that, in my case, professional help (physical therapists and doctors) were essential. Things started to turn around for me when I was properly diagnosed with a lumbar problem. But these helped me:

Life and PT exercises:

Great resource for spinal stenosis and neurogenic claudication:

This is a good explanation of spondylolisthesis (Dr. Furlan’s channel is good).

Weight lifting modifications:

A great exercise that I include daily;

I do these crunches: very useful:

Even though the McKenzie press up is not usually prescribed for stenosis sufferers, I do have disk bulging so these do help, TO A POINT:

My daily PT routine:

McKenzie press up (gentle) see above.
Glute bridges (other leg in a figure 4 piriformis stretch position

The quarter crunches with straight legs (shown above)

Dead bug.

Glute bridge with toe tap

Bird dog

Kneeling hip flexor stretch with rotation

Banded clam shell

Glute bridge with banded abduction

Psoas March

Monster walks (lateral, and forward/back)

Note: I’ve had to replace the bands a couple of times. You can see the difference between a new loop that I use for the banded (monster) walks and one that I’ve used for a year:

Life: do you really WANT/need surgery? Tough advice here: